Mortar minimum ranges....not saying we should change the rules

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Erm clues in the title of the post Rich

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Sorry, I don't understadn the point then?

If mortars are off table they can't use it, if they are on table they can't perform their primary role...confused?..

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An interesting aside, and just perhaps an idea for a one-off (and probably hidden to the attacker) scenario.

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Rich H wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:20 am
Sorry, I don't understadn the point then?

If mortars are off table they can't use it, if they are on table they can't perform their primary role...confused?..
My point, apart from general interest is my in the survivability of entrenchments.

You dont pull a broken arrow if you think it will kill your own troops.

My next example will be 105mm arty. 😁

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I've see this in so many other rules. The need to reflect an extraordinary event, and then because it becomes possible, all of a sudden it becomes commonplace... Classic example, in Phil Barker's ancients rules he wanted to represent Late Roman ballistas mounted on carts, and instead of being mobile in the sense of keeping up with deployment, they become ancient history panzerjager, roaming the battlefield.
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DougM wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 1:01 am
I've see this in so many other rules. The need to reflect an extraordinary event, and then because it becomes possible, all of a sudden it becomes commonplace... Classic example, in Phil Barker's ancients rules he wanted to represent Late Roman ballistas mounted on carts, and instead of being mobile in the sense of keeping up with deployment, they become ancient history panzerjager, roaming the battlefield.
Which is why I wrote no need to change the rules in the title - waste of typing time though :lol:

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Anyone seen the latest Wargames, Soldiers and Strategy? CoC scenario by Nick Skinner there has an on-table 3in mortar as a British support option. No rules for using it though.

Just sayin.

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That Nick Skinner is a bad man....look who he hangs out with..😋

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Seret wrote:
Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:56 am
They shouldn't be if you're talking indirect fire.

But what you're talking about here is using medium mortars for direct fire, which is a whole different kettle of fish. Personally I've put direct fire 82mm mortars on support lists for Soviets as they did have units that were equipped with mortars but had no spotters or system for controlling them indirect. I went for a minimum range of 24" and HE 6 (reduces cover).
How are you rolling to hit? as infantry weapons like light mortars or as HE like infantry guns?

This is very interesting, because panzergrenadier companies had a heavy weapons platoon with 4 MMG and 2 mortars. These ones are candidates to close support mortars!!

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As HE.

The Germans wouldn't have been using theirs for direct fire, this was just a weird quirky thing I did for a Soviet list.

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