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German Mixed platoons and Senior Leaders

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In the main CoC rule book, it is stated that "Where three or more vehicles of the same type are present, one may be designated as Troop or  Platoon Leader, commanded by a Senior Leader.   This Leader will activate on a roll of 4". Given the German propensity to group different vehicles in 1 troop/platoon, can they then place tanks such as Pz Is with Pz IIs in the same troop? Can SdKfz 221s be placed with SdKfz 222s in the same troop? If this is acceptable and if there are 3 of them, do they get a Senior Leader?

My reading of German recce orgs in the Lard suggested book, indicates that this was the case, at least from 1940 onwards. My recce book reference is Tip of the Spear.

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I would have no objection as that was an historical formation at that level.

Same with Brit armoured cars where dingos mixed with others

Its not covered in the main rules as these are list specific exceptions to the general rule of troop orgs.

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We played it as mix of vehicles was ok as was historically accurate.

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Agreed, as long as it's a historically accurate platoon then no problem. Likewise, nobody should have a problem if you're calling two Sherman 75mm and a Sherman 17pdr a platoon, because that's what they were in reality.

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So I am looking at running 3 SdKfz 221s and 1 222, therefore there is a SL present in one of the vehicles. I am assuming that the SL can activate all of the other 3 vehicles with a radio message which could be to tell them to move or fire (each 1 CI). Therefore, the other 3 vehicles could fire or move and the SL would still have 1 or 2 CIs to use on his own vehicle depending on what he had told the other 3 vehicles under his command. Is this correct?

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No, I don't think so. The SL has three CIs: he could, for example, use one to tell "Vehicle A" to move, a second CI to tell "Vehicle B" to move and then a third CI to tell his own driver to move.
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A French spy can see your secret plans Poiter.

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And I fully expect him to, now he will worry and fret.

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Morgan is correct.
Also IIRC the formation is 2x222 and 1 x221 as command?

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Truscott Trotter wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:46 am
Morgan is correct.
Also IIRC the formation is 2x222 and 1 x221 as command?
The 1940 organisation had two types of light armoured car platoon. One had 6x 221, the other had 4x 221 and 4x 222. So three 221s and a 222 would be fine.

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