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Traffic
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Movement

Post by Traffic »

1. The RAW say that the movement bonus from attitude to the wind occurs at the beginning of turn. Is this by squadron as a single roll or by ship?
2. Is this roll done in secret or visible to your opponent.
3. Is it actually at the beginning or on drawing a move card?
4. Does a player have to utilise the full movement including the wind bonus
5. When slowing or speeding what happens after movement if the attitude to the wind changes is this a double (or triple) effect of slowing ?

JimLeCat
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Re: Movement

Post by JimLeCat »

What it means is you determine the speed at the beginning of a ship's turn to move, that is when the relevant move card is drawn. You work it out for every ship and whatever move is rolled you must use all of it, unless they are in formation when the lead ship determines the move.

If the attitude to the wind changes during its movement that has no effect until the next turn, unless you turn into the wind and are taken aback, when you must test immediately.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Jim

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Re: Movement

Post by Archdukek »

Just to add to Jim’s reply, skilled crew do have the opportunity to control the ship speed to a degree but not completely by adjusting their sail settings. See 6.4 on page 15.
So an Elite crewed ship with the wind on the quarter could declare it intends to slow down to move at Basic speed in that turn and not roll the +2D6 for movement. You have to declare this before rolling any dice. Once any dice are rolled then you must move the full distance.

We play that all dice rolls are visible to the opponent. The opposing captains can see and would be able to estimate what speed an enemy vessel is doing.

Ships in a squadron maintaining Line of Battle move at the speed of the slowest vessel and only roll once for the squadron as a whole. See 6.9 on page 16.

Hope that helps,
John

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Re: Movement

Post by Traffic »

Thanks for the two responses - Happy with 1-4. 5 still needs a bit of help (see below):
1. Determine the speed at the beginning of a ship's turn to move, that is when the relevant move card is drawn. You work it out for every ship and whatever move is rolled you must use all of it. Unless using Line of Battle
2. Rolls are normally public
3. See 1 (when the card is drawn)
4. See 1 (Yes)
5. -

This is the summary from 6.4 laid out in table format
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Why is the table based on sub quality and not class. As written a Average set of landlubbers can use the sail settings and the wind more effectively than a set of Poor JJTs. Is this intended as the class definitions on P6-8 would indicate otherwise.

What attitude to the wind allows "Basic" or this to represent shortening of the sails as "Basic" speed isn't a selectable speed anywhere else. So would only be possible for ships with Wind on the Quarter or Aft (And Aft doesn't exist either - Astern ?).

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Re: Movement

Post by Archdukek »

You would need to ask the author that question, but I think it is a design decision to keep the rule simple and easy to operate. Otherwise you would need a nine grid table as in the Tack test with variations that make little difference in practice.

The descriptions of the classes as Jolly Jack Tars, Sans Culottes and Landlubbers are broad definitions of each type. I think those describe the fighting qualities of the crew, while Elite, Average or Poor has more to do with their sailing ability and ship handling skills hence its use in this table. It would be rare to find any Poor JJTs outside a specific scenario perhaps to reflect an undermanned ship. It you want to switch to using those classifications instead then you could try it, but it would penalise the best French crews unduly in my view.

No attitude to the wind allows movement at Basic speed. It is as you suggest the effect of shortening the sails or spilling wind by adjusting their individual position to give a greater measure of control. And yes it’s only possible for ships with the wind on the quarter or astern (Aft and Astern mean the same thing in this case). You can’t suddenly move faster and without any penalty if the wind is on the Bow.

John

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