SP2 and the Crimean War

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SP2 and the Crimean War

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I am contemplating a new project and the Crimean War has always interested me. Not sure I can face up to painting masses of troops at the moment but after listening the Rich's interview on M&M recently, I was thinking that SP2 might be a convenient way to scratch the itch through some some skirmish actions in 28mm.

I had a look but haven't found anyone posting about this period using SP at all.
I would be very interested in some opinions about the suitability of this and how the different nationalities, troop types and weaponry might be reflected.

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Paul
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Surely I cant be the only one :-)
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Re: SP2 and the Crimean War

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Not a period I have ever gamed but should work perfectly

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I am planning on some crimean SP2 for the exact same reasons. Working on some profiles.

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It would certainly work, the force lists are something I have an idea on, so I'll put up what I thought later as a straw man.

I think the worst bit would be that the infantry would end up with heaps of Russians against the British or French as they might have rifled muskets and would certainly have better firing. I think that it would mean that historical tactics would work best though as the Russians will want to close to use their bayonets whilst the British and French will be more firing oriented.

Anyone know any good sources for the Turks in the war?

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Re: SP2 and the Crimean War

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Thanks Jammy & Dave, I'll look fwd to working some profiles with you

The British/French use of the Minie vs the Russians smooth bore mullet is an interesting comparison for the infantry while the Cavalry is probably more similar (other than the irregular Cossacks). I agree - the Russian assault columns (backed up by more and heavier artillery) vs better Allied firepower is an interesting matchup.

Dave - I have a friend who is keen to do the Turks so we will be looking at that too.
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Re: SP2 and the Crimean War

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I will be using the Indian mutiny British as a starting point.

The Russians will generally be poor with some exceptions. However it will usually be appropriate for them to be in excellent defensive works with good artillery. Attacking may be difficult but some Inkerman style fog might help the range problem. The officers will probably receive a generous bump over their real life counterparts (this is sharpski practise after all).

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Re: SP2 and the Crimean War

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Intial thoughts for the Russians infantry

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Infantry - Conscripts & Volunteers
Points value 4                Weapon Musket                    Size 8
Formation    First   Controlled  Crashing  Step Drill   Characteristics
             Fire    Volley      Volley     Out    
Always        Yes       Yes       -          3     3     Poor Shots, Stubborn
Open to discussion. I suspect the cavalry will be somewhat better.

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For the infantry, I'd probably not give them the Drill options at all, as it doesn't seem to fit with the stereotype of the stolid, slow moving peasant infantry of the period. Maybe make them Aggressive to reflect their preference for the bayonet over the bullet.

SP1 gave Russians a national characteristic called "Vodka!" , allowing a unit to advance towards the enemy with +2" per dice of movement. It's probably easier to give them 'Step Out' with 3 command cards rather than invent a new unit characteristic, as it has much the same effect, but maybe limit the 'Step Out' to movement towards the enemy rather than to improve their manoeuvring?

Russians were well known for their ability to soak up punishment: so maybe adapt the old "Stoic Serfs" national characteristic for their infantry: ignoring the first point of Shock every time any is inflicted on them should do the trick, with the additional twist that, if defending fortifications, they deduct -1 from the dice roll when forced to test Force Morale, potentially reducing the impact of bad things affecting them.

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Re: SP2 and the Crimean War

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That looks spot on to me.

Some better Russian infantry. Ran through the sharpinator.

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Strelkovy - Skirmishers
Points value 10               Weapon Rifle                    Size 6
Formation    First   Controlled  Crashing  Step  Drill   Characteristics
             Fire    Volley      Volley     Out    
never        Yes       no         -          3     3      Stubborn,

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Infantry - Conscripts & Volunteers
Points value 4                Weapon Musket                    Size 8
Formation    First   Controlled  Crashing  Step Drill   Characteristics
             Fire    Volley      Volley     Out    
no shock     Yes       Yes       -          3     3     Poor Shots,Stubborn, 

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Company skirmishers - Conscripts & Volunteers
Points value 5                Weapon Musket                    Size 8
Formation    First   Controlled  Crashing  Step Drill   Characteristics
             Fire    Volley      Volley     Out    
no shock      Yes      Yes       2          3     3     Stubborn

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Grenadiers/Carabineers - Conscripts & Volunteers
Points value 5                Weapon Musket                    Size 8
Formation    First   Controlled  Crashing  Step Drill    Characteristics
             Fire    Volley      Volley     Out    
always      Yes      Yes         -           3     3     Stubborn,                                                                aggressive, poor shots
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