Füsilierkompanie (auf Fahrrädern) KStN.149 V 1.9.1944

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Füsilierkompanie (auf Fahrrädern) KStN.149 V 1.9.1944

Post by hendrik » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:33 pm

Hey all,

I've tried using the CoCulator to calculate a fusilierplatoon mounted on bicylces based on the following TOE:
http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/kstn/kstn149v1sep44.htm

Here's what I came up with.
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machine pistol bicycle platoon
Platoon force rating:
regular: 0
green: -5
Command dice: 5

Platoon headquarters
Zugführer Senior Leader armed with a machine-pistol

squads one to two
Gruppenführer Junior leader armed with a machine-pistol
8 men armed with machine pistols

squad three
Gruppenführer Junior leader armed with a machine-pistol
LMG team:
MG 42
2 crew
3 men armed with machine pistols
rifle grenade team:
3 men armed with rifle grenade launchers


third bicycle platoon
Platoon force rating:
regular: 0
green: -5
Command dice: 5

Platoon headquarters
Zugführer Senior Leader armed with a machine-pistol

squads one to two
Gruppenführer Junior leader armed with a machine-pistol
LMG team
MG 42
2 crew
1 riflemen
rifle team
5 riflemen
1 man with machine pistol"


squad three
Gruppenführer Junior leader armed with a machine-pistol
LMG team
MG 42
2 crew
2 riflemen
1 man armed with machine pistol
rifle grenade team
3 men armed with rifle grenade launchers




Support options:
List 1
Medical orderly
Adjudant
Single panzerfaust 60 (or 90 if past November 1944)
List 2
Senior leader armed with a machine pistol
List 3
Sniper team
List 4
Forward observer and 8 cm mortar battery
MG42 on tripod mount, 5 crew
Pak 36 37 mm with stielgranaten with 5 crew and a junior leader



What do you all think?
I'm a bit clueless on how the gruppen would split up from the MG42's and not sure how to deal with those sections. any advise or input is much appreciated!

Thanks!

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Re: Füsilierkompanie (auf Fahrrädern) KStN.149 V 1.9.1944

Post by Seret » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:35 am

Core platoon looks fine, it's similar to a Volksgrenadier platoon in some ways so all/most of your machine pistols should be StG-44s.

For the support lists though: Pak-36 would be a bit rare in 44, and I'd include all the normal supports for an infantry division (Pak-40, infantry guns, extra squads, pioneers, Marders, Stugs, etc)

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Re: Füsilierkompanie (auf Fahrrädern) KStN.149 V 1.9.1944

Post by dalemunk » Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:30 am

Seret wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:35 am
Core platoon looks fine, it's similar to a Volksgrenadier platoon in some ways so all/most of your machine pistols should be StG-44s.

For the support lists though: Pak-36 would be a bit rare in 44, and I'd include all the normal supports for an infantry division (Pak-40, infantry guns, extra squads, pioneers, Marders, Stugs, etc)
Pak 36 with Stielgranate might be exactly the option for them? Light, so easy to transport. They probably weren't doing front line duty?

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Re: Füsilierkompanie (auf Fahrrädern) KStN.149 V 1.9.1944

Post by Seret » Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:40 pm

Fusiliers were attached to the divisional HQ at company or battalion strength, so had no AT guns of their own. AT support would have come from the Divisional AT Bn, or from any infantry regiment they were attached to. So you're generally looking at Pak-40s, panzerschrecks and Marders in well-equipped divisions. Pak-38s and Pak-36s would be more likely in rear-echelon and security divisions. Either way, unless you're representing troops from a static division any gun supplied would have its own prime mover, so mobility isn't really an issue.

The Fusiliers were definitely doing front-line duty though. They were supposed to be an elite. Their job was theoretically reconnaissance, but like most recce troops they tended to get used as a bit of a mobile reserve and "fire brigade" a lot of the time. They'd often be used to hold key pieces of terrain, or counter-attack gaps in the line.

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Re: Füsilierkompanie (auf Fahrrädern) KStN.149 V 1.9.1944

Post by john de terre neuve » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:38 pm

Nice, it is always neat to see different types of units.

In your list you may need to consider movement rates when mounted on bicycles, dis/re-mount process, etc.

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Re: Füsilierkompanie (auf Fahrrädern) KStN.149 V 1.9.1944

Post by Seret » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:16 pm

John, nobody rides a bicycle into a gunfight.

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Re: Füsilierkompanie (auf Fahrrädern) KStN.149 V 1.9.1944

Post by john de terre neuve » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:57 pm

oh dear, what a snippy comment!

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Post by NTM » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:13 pm

As shown in the link the company had in theory a couple of ig 37 which were despite the name intended as anti tank guns. It was basically the Pak 36 carriage (or Russian 45mm) with a new 7.5cm barrel. The reality was no doubt different with various other guns issued if any.

The unit was often utilised as the division reserve or advance guard with the SPG from the divisional AT battalion and other assets.

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Re: Füsilierkompanie (auf Fahrrädern) KStN.149 V 1.9.1944

Post by Truscott Trotter » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:51 pm

Gee and theres me thinkingthat last photo was an "in action " shot 😃😉

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Re: Füsilierkompanie (auf Fahrrädern) KStN.149 V 1.9.1944

Post by Seret » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:29 pm

john de terre neuve wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:57 pm
oh dear, what a snippy comment!
Not intended with any malice at all, John. Apologies if I've offended!

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