100 Days scenarios - Arriving Off Table Reserves

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100 Days scenarios - Arriving Off Table Reserves

Post by bigduke1327 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:02 pm

Hi all,

Had a great game of the Mont St Jean scenario today but I think we messed up arriving Off Table Reserves and their ADCs'.

So say for the Allies, Lamberts Infantry Brigade Turn 3 and Ponsonbys Cavalry Brigade Turn 4.

Now does this mean
a) they arrive 'behind the table' on their respective turn, at which point their ADCs are added to the 'pool' (needing a 5 or 6 to be available as they are off-table) and then need 2 ADCS to 'release' them on to the table,
OR
Their ADCs are available from the start (needing 5 or 6) and then on their respective turn they are available to be 'released' from 'Reserve' by allocating 2 ACD's.
OR
Their ADCs are available from the start (needing 5 or 6) but then on their respective turn they automatically arrive at the table edge.

Cheers, Mart

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Re: 100 Days scenarios - Arriving Off Table Reserves

Post by Polish Lancer » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:14 am

So I have looked over the scenario and the rule book and...

I would say that at the start of the turn the brigade is available, the ADC/'s are added to your pool, but rolled separately needing a 5 or 6. You still need to allocate 2 ADC's to get the brigade onto the battlefield if they obey orders.

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Re: 100 Days scenarios - Arriving Off Table Reserves

Post by nikjen66 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:36 am

There are some scenarios in the book that state (I think it’s Quarter Bras) the reinforcements/reserves arrive automatically and don’t need to be rolled for. Otherwise the brigade needs to be activated to arrive using the off table reserve 2 ADC action.

I am presuming that until the relevant brigade gets in table it’s ADC remains off table needing a 5-6 to be active.

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Re: 100 Days scenarios - Arriving Off Table Reserves

Post by bellebsc » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:32 am

Played the same scenario yesterday and that's how we played it with the brigades automatically turn up turn 3 and 4

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Re: 100 Days scenarios - Arriving Off Table Reserves

Post by Archdukek » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:23 am

Hi Mart,
Haven't checked the specific scenario, but the rule on Reinforcing Brigades on page 23 of the rulebook seems quite clear that scheduled reinforcements arrive automatically on the turn specified. They are not considered to be reserves but operate normally on arrival so you do not have to allocate any ADCs to activate them.

As per the rule for Reinforcing Brigades on page 30, the associated ADCs can be rolled for from the beginning of the game being available on a 5,6 while the reinforcing brigade is off table, then a 3-6 once the brigade arrives.

So unless the scenario says something different I would follow those general rules.

John

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Re: 100 Days scenarios - Arriving Off Table Reserves

Post by bigduke1327 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:54 pm

Thanks for the replies gents.

As mentioned above in the Quatre Bras scenario it differentiates between arriving troops (the Allies) and arriving 'Off-Table Reserves' (the French Cuirassier). It states that the Allied Brigades enter on the turn of arrival, but for the French it states
The French Cuirassiers are classed as an offtable reserve and must be brought on using the standard command rules. They enter on the Brussels road at the French table edge from Turn 8.
The arriving troops in the Mont St Jean scenario (both sides) are similarly classed as arriving 'Off-Table Reserves' so if its consistent they would need to be brought on with the 2 ADC cost, with the first turn they could be brought on as listed (3 or 4).

If they aren't even Off-Table Reserves in the early turns then maybe we shouldn't have been adding their potential ADCs (albeit on a 5 or 6) until their first 'possible' turn of arrival.

It affected both sides in our game anyway and didn't have much impact but it would divert important ADC's away from front line Brigades when the reinforcements turn up to bring them on, so would give the players a tough choice.

Both sides enjoyed the game but we sadly only got to 14 out of 20 possible turns so we didn't get a conclusion.

Mart

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Re: 100 Days scenarios - Arriving Off Table Reserves

Post by Archdukek » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:35 pm

Yes troops classified as "Off Table Reserves" need to be activated and brought on table through the tasking of 2 ADCs once they arrive off table. However, the ADCs associated with them are available from the outset of the game but only available on a 5 or 6.

The total number of ADCs is a reflection of the total eventual size of the CinC's command.

John

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Re: 100 Days scenarios - Arriving Off Table Reserves

Post by nikjen66 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:44 am

Hi John,

The one exception to this does appear to be the QB scenario where the Allies only get the ADC dice with the arrival of each brigade on the table? Obviously to account for Fat Williams less than brilliant command ability. But also possibly due to the situation in the day when the chaotic roadblock north of the battlefield meant that troops served when they arrived.

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