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Base sizes?

Post by Dragoon » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:05 am

I've looked through the rules and the only reference to base size is that it doesn't matter as long as both players have the same size base.
Now the 28mm figures looked ok but what size is the standard?
the old size for 25mm figures was 0.5" wide and 0.75" deep for 1 figure.
For 15mm Figures the size was given as half the 25mm figures, this worked for the old strip Minfigs. but they weren't really 15mm, more like 12mm. so as 15mm crept towards 18mm. 10mm. became more reasonable.
At a guess the 28mm figures based 2 figures wide and 2 figures deep as they were at salute the bases looked to be 15mm wide and 30mm deep.
In 'Age of Eagles' Napoleonic Brigade Level rules the sizes are for 15mm.
Infantry 20mm wide X 25mm deep. 4 figures in 2 ranks
Cavalry 25mm wide X 25mm deep. 2 figures in 1 rank.
this looks fine with modern figures and the old Minfigs are ok
Artillery pieces were deployed 14 yards between guns, so allowing 2 yards for each gun and the 5 spaces between the guns, a 6 gun Battery would have a frontage of 82 yards.
At a 1 : 20 figure to men ratio a 20 figure battalion is 400 men, that's a battalion frontage of 100mm. or 100 yards or 18" per file.
Well drilled troops could manage 21" per file. if we go for metres then that 20" per man frontage. close enough, but the battery frontage will have to be converted to metres.

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Re: Base sizes?

Post by SteveBurt » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:09 am

Figure to man ratios (and number of figures on base) really don't matter at all, so go with whatever fits with your existing basing and collection.

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Re: Base sizes?

Post by Archdukek » Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:16 pm

Hi Draggon,
As Steve says, base sizes are basically what you and your opponent choose to make them.

In 15mm, most ACW gamers I know seem to have settled on a norm of 3-4 figures on a 25 X 20mm or 25mm square base reflecting the popularity of the original Fire & Fury rules and their successors.

Most metal 28mm ranges these days would struggle to fit on a 15mm frontage so 20mm per figure or 4 figures on a 40x40mm base is common. The Perry Miniatures are rather slimmer, particularly the plastic ranges, they come with bases which assume 15x20mm per figure, often as 6 figures on a 45x40 mm base which may have been what you have seen.

So my advice is go with what you think looks good and adjust the number of bases to give you the footprint you want for the unit.

John

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Re: Base sizes?

Post by Dragoon » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:07 am

I'm looking at ACW for the first time in 45 years last played using Phil Callcots rules but the last Napoleonic rules were Age of Eagles by Bill Gray.
1"=120 yards but I think I'm the only player in the north west and North Wales.
So back to ACW, but its a shame that basing suggestions weren't in the book.

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Re: Base sizes?

Post by SteveBurt » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:08 am

If you are using 15mm figures, I suggest going with 1"/25mm wide bases, as that's the 'standard' for ACW rules. Either 1" or 3/4" deep.
Put as many figures on the base as looks good (usually 3 or 4).
For 28mm, 40mm squares with 3 or 4 figures are good.

That basing will allow you to play almost any ACW set of rules.

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Re: Base sizes?

Post by Dragoon » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:27 pm

Cheers Steve,
I've noticed you play SYW, what rules do you use?

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Re: Base sizes?

Post by SteveBurt » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:03 pm

I use 'Maurice' for SYW

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