CoCulator calculator

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Re: CoCulator calculator

Post by captain_nutrageous » Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:11 am

It doesn't seem to be possible to correlate the spreadsheet values with some of the assigned values for platoons. Eg panzergrenadier platoon the spreadsheet gives +2 but the amended value seems to be +3. Similarly the VG sturm platoon in Bloody Bucket is given a 0 rating but on the spreadsheet I get -4. Any ideas?

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Re: CoCulator calculator

Post by Truscott Trotter » Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:24 pm

My run through the CoCulator SS for Reg PG came out at +3 I suggest you check your calcs - did you include the Shrek and 2 PF's?

As for BB I suspect Rich has used a sprinkle of pixie dust or an old CoCulator or you have missed something. AS I do not own BB I cannot check your calculations
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Re: CoCulator calculator

Post by captain_nutrageous » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:40 pm

No big, I'm happy to use the book values for platoons (as amended - I think your site had a list of amended values IIRC Truscott?) but I was just interested in the comparison. I'm not sure that a list of hard points values is the best way to go anyway - that's what ruined WRG ancients - I think it best to maintain an element of subjectivity.

That said, it would be ideal if there was one source of the truth....

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Re: CoCulator calculator

Post by Truscott Trotter » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:44 pm

Actually IIRC its Serets site that has the amended values
Not a lot of people would realise this..........soooooo
It would be nice for them to be included on the FAQ V2 :D

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Re: CoCulator calculator

Post by captain_nutrageous » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:37 am

For the VS - I get 89 pts (or 91 if you count an assault rifle for a JL as being +1 like an SMG). Then less 1/3rd for being Green = 61 ~ -4

For the PzG I still get +2 all up.
Three squads each (JL+SMG, 2 x belt LMG, 3 x rifle, 2 X PF) = (6+1+16+3+2)*3 = 84
SL+SMG=10
PSK=6
Total = 100 i.e. +2 [+3 being 102-107]

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Re: CoCulator calculator

Post by Truscott Trotter » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:40 am

Ahh I see the issue
I was basing my calcs on the book list entry p 84 that is
LMG TEAM MG 42
Two crew
Three rifleman
LMG TEAM MG 42
Two crew
Two rifleman


To a total of 5 rifles not 3 per section

FWIW I forgot to add the 2 PF's per section and made it 2 per plt
So I get a total of 106 still +3

Also I reckon 1 pt for a PF is far too cheap. I regularly kill tanks with mine.
Perhaps a point based on their type would be better?
Say
PF 30 - 1 pt
PF 60 - 2 pts
PF 100 - 3 pts

Also Assault rifles are 2 pts so yes I guess +1 for JL

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Re: CoCulator calculator

Post by captain_nutrageous » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:21 am

You're right TT. I guess there are lots of little points with something like the CoCulator. E.g for PFs, a PSK costs six points and has three rounds (shots) so maybe a PF should be more like 2 than 1. An assault rifle gets three dice, should it cost 3 not 2? And so forth.

In the end a subjective call by the Great Richard is probably just as valid. If not more so...

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