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Looks a great book. Doesn't appear available in UK. Do you have a copy Emillio or just stumbled across these pages?

Rich is it worth reaching out to the Japanese wargaming fraternity? I fould the email address for one club - westokyowargamers@hotmail.co.jp
They may have access to some primary sources or be able to give a contact with period knowledge outside the usual European sources we tend to rely on.

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Nick

PS - I've fired off an email to see if they can help.

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Also available used from third party sellers on amazon.

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If you can get it, get it.

"Japanese Infantry Weapons Vol. 1" published in 1966 by the Normount Armament Company in the US.

Type A is your early organisation up to 1940 in China, type B is your 1940+ WWII pacific and far east organisation. The main difference at squad level is type A had 11 men, and type B had 13. Type A units did fight in the early "winning years"

The "Type B" LMG within a section was assigned four men, a junior leader (rifle), gunner, and two ammo carriers (rifles). The ammo carriers protected the gun whilst in operation.

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I recently came across a proposed organization for the US Marines 1941 - 42 while browsing the "Too Fat Lardies" Yahoo group. There were some inaccuracies as to the platoon's organization. The D-series organization (in effect until early 1943) gives the following organization.

Platoon HQ: Lieutenant, Senior Leader,pistol/SMG; Platoon Sergeant, Senior Leader,SMG;
Platoon Guide (Segeant), Junior Leader, Rifle; Demolitions Corporal, Rifle; 3 Messengers, Rifle
Total: 7 men

Squads 1- 3
Squad Leader, Sergeant, Junior Leader, Rifle/SMG
Assistant Squad Leader, Corporal, Rifle
One BAR with one crew
One Rifle Grenadier
Four Riflemen (2 are designated as Scouts)
Total: 9 men

BAR Squad
Squad Leader, Sergeant, Junior Leader, Rifle/SMG
Two BAR with one crew
Three Riflemen
Total: 8 men

This would have been the organization on Guadalcanal. The listed support seems reasonable. The above information was found in Osprey's US Marine Corps Pacific Theater of Operations 1941-1943, by Gordon Rottman

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A similar discussion here:
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=1034&hilit=USMC
The source I mention in the link also has three 9 man squads and an 8 man BAR squad. Again the difference is the Platoon HQ.

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So this is an olllllllder post, but I have to ask the question, has there been any final movement on an official TFL listing for the Pacific, namely the Japanese Force?

We played a BIG CoC game last night with British regulars and Commandos vs a Malayan Japanese army listing, and needless to say we got our asses handed to us...as per discussion, a very powerful Japanese force.

So whats the scoop?

Thanks.
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We've played two games using a Guadalcanal scenario. In the first, a Japanese attack on a USMC position was led to pretty much the same result as you mention in your post. The D-series Marine organization just doesn't have the firepower to go one-on-one with an attacking Japanese platoon. Of course, a low die roll on the part of the attacker for support didn't help the defender either!

The second game was a patrol action with both sides advancing. This time the Marines used the Raider organization (3 BAR teams per squad). Support on both sides was minimal. The Marines, in an effort to spur the Raiders' esprit and leadership were given six (6) command dice to start. It was a bloody battle with the Japanese destroying one Marine squad in melee, although being badly hurt in the process. Both sides reached their Force Morale break-point (3) on the same turn, so it was declared a draw.

Maybe next time I will try the Marines' E-series organization!

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Is there a page detailing how fire teams and fire team leader work in marine's list?

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