Late war Italian List

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the bear
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Late war Italian List

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Hello All,

Has anyone come up with a late war Italian List - after the allied landing in Italy?

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RSI or CIL?

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Not that I have seen published anywhere.
The "Battle for Liberation" supplement for I Ain't Been Shot Mum available on the TFL website provides information on Late War Italian forces for that game. Although pitched at company level you might be able to use that information to put together a list for CoC.

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Ths might help in a similar vein for the CIL
http://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=200
unfortunately the RSI one has not been removed - I do not have a copy of it but have an excel spreadsheet with all the company level listings on if you are interested?

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I would guess it would be the RSI rather than the CIL as we looking to do invasion of the Italian mainland type battles?

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RSI were formed , trained and equipped by the Germans after the Italian surrender in 1943. The CIL were those Italians trained and equipped by the allies. CIl did not see much front line service - the RSI saw a bit more action
Managed to find it I think
http://www.flamesofwar.com/?tabid=112&art_id=215
http://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=217
interesting background here too
http://www.comandosupremo.com/rsi.html
Handy links here also
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=112461

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Those are some really intriguing links. It's an interesting chapter of the late war that doesn't get much attention. I certainly know very little about it.

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There is some information about the CIL platoon structure on bayonet strength

viewtopic.php?f=35&t=2015

It’s quite similar to standard Italian organization but with extra LMGs
I doubt this applies to the RSI though

One thing I would be interested to know is when the CIL first formed they kept their standard kit (before being reequipped by the British later on) did this mean that they also kept there AFVs?

I love the idea of an Italian platoon with both universal carriers and L6/40s in support

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The RSI troops sent to Germany were well trained and motivated, as well as being German equipped, so MG42s instead of Bredas. They were barely used in combat against the Allies, being shoved on anti-Partizan duty. I think it was up near Triest. They were very pissed off about it.

Other RSI units seem to have been militias and their organisation would, I believe, be based on the black shirt formations.

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