A CoC Challenge!

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Re: A CoC Challenge!

Post by aktr » Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:34 pm

I look forward to reading your Partisan list Willy but I’ll have to wait till I get home. I can't access Drop box at work (grumble grumble)

Anyway (in my best Python voice), Now for something completely different

What if we hadn’t handed over the Sudetenland in 1938? The Germans may have had to invade Czechoslovakia. In which case they may have been fighting against something like this

Czechoslovakia 1938
Rating: Regular -1
SO – Pistol
SO – Rifle

Section 1-3
Junior Leader – Rifle
Team 1- LMG – 2 Crew, 2 Riflemen
Team 2 – 2 Rifle Grenade Launchers
Team 3 – 5 Riflemen

Support
List 1
Satchel Charge
Two Molotov Cocktails
Medical Orderly
Engineer Mine Clearance Team, 3 men
Engineer Wire Cutting Team, 3 men
Engineer Demolition Team, 3 men
Minefield
Barbed Wire
Adjutant
Entrenchments for one Team

List 2
Road Block
Vz33 Tankette

List 3
Sniper
Medium Machine Gun with 5 crew
vz27 Armoured Car
CKD AH-IV Tankette

List 4
Engineer section with Junior Leader
Forward Observer with 81mm Mortar Battery
Vz35 Light Tank (Panzer 35t)
37mm Anti Tank gun with 5 crew and Junior Leader
vz30 Armoured car

Vehicle Stats
vz27 Armoured Car
Armour: 1
AP: -
HE: Hull MG, Turret MG
Speed: Wheeled

vz30 Armoured car
Armour: 2
AP: -
HE: Hull MG, Turret MG, Rear Hull MG
Speed: Wheeled

Vz33 Tankette
Armour: 2
AP: -
HE: 2xMG
Speed: Average
Small, Low Profile, Driver MG cannot be fired if vehicle moves


CKD AH-IV Tankette
Armour: 2
AP: -
HE: Hull MG, Turret MG
Speed: Average
Small

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Re: A CoC Challenge!

Post by PatG » Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:27 pm

Great list!

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Re: A CoC Challenge!

Post by Willy » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:28 am

Nice work, and an excuse to break out the tankettes!

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Re: A CoC Challenge!

Post by Shirty » Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:49 pm

Hello!
Here comes my contribution! I started to make a "Defense of Moscow"-list because I think the present "Soviet 1941" list covers the border battles and not too much more. Most of the fighting later in the summer, autumn and winter were carried out by newly raised units using another (rather interesting!) organization. To reflect the cut-down on artillery in this units and the well documented difficulty the soviets had to use indirect artillery fire in these battles I changed the "Wrath of the gods"-national characteristic to a more suitable one. English isn´t my native language so help me correct anything of questionable readability…!

DEFENSE OF MOSCOW 1941
THE RIFLE PLATOON
After Nazi germanys attack june 22 1941 the Soviet industry could not fill the needs to equip war-time raised units to pre-war standard. This led to new TO&E issued for divisions formed from july and forward. The biggest difference from the pre-war platoon were that only two of the four squads were authorized light machine guns and that training of it´s men and officers were hasty to say the least. These divisions bore the brunt of fighting during the autumn and up to the defense of Moscow 1941. This list could also be used for platoons from the 250 or so Rifle Brigades that began to form in september of witch thirty-seven were Navy rifle brigades made up of Red fleet sailors.

Most troops from these newly-raised units are rated as Green.

PLATOON FORCE RATING
Green: -5
Regular: 0

Command Dice: 4 when Green, 5 when Regular.

PLATOON HEADQUARTERS
Leytenant, Inferior Senior Leader armed with pistol

SQUAD ONE AND TWO
Serzhant, Junior Leader armed with SMG

RIFLE SQUAD
DP-28 LMG
Two crew
One man with SMG
Seven riflemen

SQUAD THREE AND FOUR
Serzhant, Junior Leader armed with SMG

RIFLE SQUAD
One man with SMG
Nine riflemen


SOVIET SUPPORT LIST
LIST ONE
4xSVT-40 Semi-Automatic Rifles (may be taken only once)
Satchel charge
Two Molotov cocktails
Medical orderly
Engineer Mine Clearance Team, 3 men
Engineer Wire Cutting Team, 3 men
Engineer Demolition Team, 3 men
Minefield
Barbed Wire
Entrenchments for one Team
Leytenant upgraded to Senior leader

LIST TWO
Ampulomet Team, 3 men (october 1941 and on only)
Tank Killer Team, two men with one SMG and one Molotov cocktail
M1940/41 50mm mortar Team, 3 men
PTRD AT rifle, 2 crew (october 1941 and on only)
Commissar
ROKS-2 Flamethrower Team of 3 men
Roadblock
Starshina, Junior Senior leader with SMG
T-37 with junior leader
T-27 with junior leader
BA-20 with junior leader

LIST THREE
Rifle squad as "Squad three and four"
Maxim MMG on wheeled mount, 5 crew
Pre-Game Barrage
L-37 37mm anti-tank gun, 5 crew
T-26 with 37mm gun with junior leader
T-26 Twin MG turrets with junior leader
T-38 with junior leader

LIST FOUR
Rifle squad as "Squad one and two"
M1937 45mm anti-tank gun, 6 crew
M1927 76.2mm infantry gun with five crew and Junior leader
Engineer section with Junior leader
BA-6 or BA-10 Armoured Car with Junior leader
T-26 with 45mm gun with Junior leader
BT-5 with Junior leader
BT-7 with Junior leader
BT-7A with Junior leader
T-40 with Junior leader
DSHK 12,7mm HMG, 5 crew

LIST FIVE
57mm Zis-2 anti-tank gun, 6 crew
M1939 37mm anti-aircraft gun with 5 crew and Junior leader
KhT-26 or 130 with Junior leader
T-28 with Junior leader
T-35 with Junior leader

LIST SIX
Sub-machine gun squad, 10 men with SMG and Junior leader with SMG (october 1941and on only)
T28E with Junior leader
T-34 M1940 with Junior leader
T-34 M1941 with Junior leader

LIST SEVEN
KV-1 with Junior leader

OCTOBER CHANGES
In october 1941the 50mm mortars were deleted from the platoon (they were withdrawn from one of three platoons in july) and more submachine-guns were added. To reflect this you can swap the "man with SMG" in each squad for a man with a rifle and add a 50mm mortar with three crew to the platoon. You can also choose to not substitute the SMGs with the 50mm mortar and lower the Platoon Force Rating of the platoon one step instead.

MORTARS AND STARSHINAS
A 50mm mortar chosen as in the "OCTOBER CHANGES" or a Starshina, Junior Senior leader with SMG taken from List two are integrated parts of the platoon and you take Force Morale Tests accordingly.

AMPULOMET
This infantry anti-tank weapon launched a 125mm incendiary projectile made of spherical glass. The projectile was developed as incendiary bombs to be dropped from bombers but found a new use with the ampulomet. Apart from being an emergency anti-tank weapon the ampulomet were used to set fire to buildings and to force the enemy out from entrenchments. For this use treat as a hit from a flamethrower but roll only three dice, two or more 6´s setting fire to a wooden building or force evacuation of an entrenchment. A building is +3 to hit.

COMMISSAR
As in "Soviet union 1941" list.

M1940/41 50MM MORTAR
The Soviet 50mm light mortar is only equipped with H.E ammunition and cannot fire smoke.

INFERIOR SENIOR LEADER
As in "Soviet union 1941" list.

T-35
As in "Soviet union 1941" list.

TWO MAN TANKS
As in "Soviet union 1941" list.

KHT TANKS
As in "Soviet union 1941" list.

57MM ZIS-2 ANTI-TANK GUN
Production of the Zis-2 gun were started in 1941 but was stopped after 320 units because the wrong assumption that heavier AT-guns were needed. The Zis-2 were then put back in production in 1943.

SOVIET NATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS FOR DEFENSE OF MOSCOW 1941

ANTI-FASCIST SELF DEFENSE
The horrendous atrocities committed by the German army and the will to defend the Soviet union from aggression made many of it´s soldiers to not give in despite the odds. When using a Chain of command dice to avoid taking a Force Morale Test, not only the intended test is avoided but also the following Force Morale Test, for whatever the reason it needs to be taken.

UHRAAAAH!
As in "Soviet union 1941" list.

ANTI-TANK GUNS
37mm AA gun A.P. 5 H.E. 6
57mm Zis-2 A.P. 9 H.E. 4

INFANTRY ANTI TANK WEAPONS
Ampulomet 0-6" Petrol bomb, 6-18" Petrol bomb, 24-36" Petrol bomb, H.E. 2







On unit organization:
Steve J. Zaloga; Leland S. Ness (1998). Red Army Handbook 1939-1945. Sutton Pub. . ISBN 978-0-7509-1740-7

On the Ampulomet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampulomet
http://survincity.com/2009/11/ampulomet ... n-of-wwii/
http://rkkacr.proboards.com/thread/523

All the best/Shirty

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Re: A CoC Challenge!

Post by PatG » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:10 am

Great Lists One and All. I will be collating them and submitting them to our panel of celebrity judges and announcing the winners on the weekend.

I would like to thank everyone who submitted a list. The entire CoC community has benefited from your work.

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Re: A CoC Challenge!

Post by Truscott Trotter » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:26 am

Late entry?
SOVIET STORM GROUP 1942-43
Platoon Force Ratings
Regular +1
Storm Troops are Diehards

Platoon Headquarters
Leytenant Senior Leader with SMG.
Squad One Assault
Serzhant , Junior Leader with SMG
Assault Squad 8 men with SMG
Squad Two & Three - Reinforcement / Reserve
Serzhant , Junior Leader with SMG
Assault Squad 2 men with SMG
6 choices from the following list – number in bracket means that is number of choices to get that weapon and crew.
SMG (1)
LMG and 2 crew (2)
Maxim MMG and 3 crew (3)
ATR and 2 crew (2)
50mm mortar and 3 crew (3)
45mm ATG and 4 crew (4)
76mm Infantry gun and 5 crew (4)
82mm mortar and 4 crew (4)
Infantry Flamethrower and 1 assistant with Rifle (4)
No more than 2 weapons of the same type may be chosen except for SMG, in the platoon
SOVIET NATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS:
Kick the Door in
Soviet troops in house to house fighting were taught to open the door with a grenade and follow up with the SMG – then see who was in there. Also men in assault squads carried extra supplies of these valuable weapon for street fighting. To reflect this the following modifications to the grenade rules apply:
1.) The Leaders initiative point allows 2 men to throw grenades.
2.) Units run out of grenades when they use them for 3 consecutive phases.
Infiltration
Soviet infantry and in particular the pioneers, engineers and forward assault troops were renowned for their ability to approach the German lines undetected until almost within pistol shot range. To reflect this the following modification to the jump off point rules apply:
1.) After all Jump off points have been placed the Soviet player may move one of his jump off points (without using a CoC dice) up to 18” (including closer to the enemy) as long as it still ends in cover.
2.) The First unit only to use the moved jump off point may deploy as if it was elite i.e. 9” from the jump off point.

SOVIET SUPPORT
IST
LIST ONE
Two Satchel Charge or similar
Minefield
Barbed Wire
Entrenchments for two Teams
LIST TWO
Roadblock
50mm mortar Team
Anti‐Tank rifle Team, 2 men
Tank Killer Team
Engineer Flamethrower Team, 3 men
Sniper Team
Pre‐Game Barrage
LIST THREE
Maxim MMG on wheeled tripod mount, 5 crew
Pre‐Game Barrage w/ Kaytusya -1 off die roll to come on
L46 45mm anti‐tank gun and 4 crew
Commissar
BA-6/10 with Junior Leader
LIST FOUR
BT-7 with Junior Leader
T60 with Junior Leader
Engineer Squad with Junior Leader
Regular Infantry Squad with Junior Leader
DSHK 12.7mm HMG with five crew
LIST FIVE
Naval Infantry Squad with Junior Leader
Scout Squad with Junior Leader
T70 with Junior Leader
76mm Infantry gun with crew of 4
LIST SIX
76.2mm Zis-3 with crew of 5
T34 M1942 with Junior Leader
LIST SEVEN
KV1E with Junior Leader
LIST EIGHT
KV2 with Junior Leader

SOVIET ARSENAL TABLE
Tanks & Armoured Cars
VEHICLE ARMOUR A.P. H.E. SPEED NOTES
T60 4 2 2 Average No hull MG
KV2 8 10 13 Slow No hull MG
BA‐10 3 5 4 Wheeled Half‐Track Option, hull MG

Guns A.P. H.E
76mm obr 1927 4 6
76.2mm Zis-3 8 6

Naval Infantry as per Normal Inf Squad but Diehard

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Re: A CoC Challenge!

Post by cstoesen » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:19 pm

PatG wrote:Great Lists One and All. I will be collating them and submitting them to our panel of celebrity judges and announcing the winners on the weekend.

I would like to thank everyone who submitted a list. The entire CoC community has benefited from your work.

Any word from the celebrity judges?

Chris
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The Results Are In!

Post by PatG » Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:45 am

Lardies and Gentlemen, after long rounds of deliberation and late night emailing back and forth across the pond, the results are in. It was a very, very tough decision, the quality and variety of all the lists was outstanding.

Best List:

Defence of Moscow by Shirty

Runner up: Dutch 1940 by Dick aka DBPax

Most interesting:
Partisan Maquis by Will aka Willy

Runner up: Gideon Force by Balpe


Two entries went so far beyond the simple list the contest asked for, they deserve separate recognition.

Special Jury Prizes
go to:
Action at Ustilug : Chris Stoesen

1st Polish Para and Black Brigade : Matt aka Unhinged Tangent


Shirty, Will, Chris and Matt - PM me with your coordinates and what scale or size you would like your toys at: 6mm to 54mm and all points in between.

The rest of you - Rich has very kindly offered to give everyone who submitted a list their very own Lardy mouse mat! They are so exclusive they're not even in the store (yet).

Thank you all for your contributions not just to the contest but to CoC and the Lardy community as a whole.

PatG

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Re: A CoC Challenge!

Post by Willy » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:38 am

This was really fun, and I have used some of the lists already, esp. Polish paratroopers and Ethiopian. There were a huge number of great ideas and some interesting corners of the war that you all shed light into. Thanks for running it Pat, and thanks to the celebrity judges, and to the printers of the terrain!

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Re: A CoC Challenge!

Post by cstoesen » Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:57 pm

Thank you for running this. It was great fun. Any chance of these getting published out in a downloadable form?
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