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About to play our first game tonight and I am wondering if anyone has come up with a list for the French Resistance? I have quite a few of them to use as some stage.

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Well, as an irregular formation there wasn't any set structure. Different resistance groups were as different from each other as they were from the enemy, and organisation could have varied from one mission to the next.

I would just use what models you have, organised in some kind of sensible way. If you need to turn that into a force rating then run it through the CoCulator.

Writing lists for irregulars is hard, because unlike regulars they don't have a set structure so writing a prescriptive list which gives them one doesn't reflect the actual historical reality. I wrote this one for the eastern front partisans after doing quite a bit of research. For some of the more paramilitary French resistance groups in the south it might work with a bit of adjustment. I don't know a whole lot about the French resistance though, and you might find it doesn't really copy across very well.

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Something to consider support-wise is that, while you're not going to have much access to heavy equipment, there are a number of abstract support options whose game effects would still fit for a resistance force. I recommend looking at the various new options in Blitzkrieg 1940 especially, as Franc-Tiralleurs, Fifth Columnists, Civilians, and Nuns with Guns would all fit with only a re-theme.

Using the rules for Pre-Game Bombardments and Stuka Bombardments you could reflect sabotage and surprise attacks.

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Do any of you think the Russian Partizan list from the Operation Winterstorm Scenario Supplement might be helpful?

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genew49 wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:27 pm
Do any of you think the Russian Partizan list from the Operation Winterstorm Scenario Supplement might be helpful?
Yes, I was about to suggest using that. But the Soviet partisans had access to lots of heavy equipment which the French probably did not such as Anti-tank cannon, field cannon etc.
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I have written a Polish AK partisan list but same problem as the Soviets a lot more organisation and equipment than the French.

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Levi the Ox wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:30 am
Something to consider support-wise is that, while you're not going to have much access to heavy equipment, there are a number of abstract support options whose game effects would still fit for a resistance force.
Exactly. I took this approach with the eastern partisans. Have a core list with a small very plain core (eg: just a couple of squads with rifles). Then from your support list you bolt-on teams of specialists (saboteurs/sappers, scouts, machine guns, etc). That way you can sort of reflect the more fluid mission-based organisation of an irregular unit and make them more interesting to play. Since your core force is like to be green troops with rifles they can be a bit unexciting.

The support list is where you want to put all the "flavour" that makes them seem like "French resistance", so this is where you want to put all the obscure stuff like femme fatales to distract German sentries!

Of course, it's also worth considering their opponents won't be heavily armed either. I did do a list for German rear-echelon security troops who were the kind of folks doing anti-partisan ops: https://tinyhordes.com/german-security- ... f-command/

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Unless they are facing panzer grenadiers, as Al Murray described in a recent We Have Ways live cast. That did not end well.

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I've just finished reading Five Years, Four Fronts which is the story of a German Regimental commander (by 44) who fights in France 40, Russia 41-44 and then France 44-45. He mentions French Resistance in 44-45 but nothing of any substance apart from nuisance raids and shooting messengers/despatch riders. He sort of downtalks their work but I think he has ignored the confusion created by them. YMMV.

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Re: French Resistance list

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I wrote lists on the Facebook page named Chain of command France. You will find AS and FTP lists, as well as Vichy security forces. They need to be playtested.

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