Unit Facing

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Unit Facing

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Hi

I am having problems getting my head around 7.5 Unit facing. Clearly a unit can only shoot 180 to their front unless in a building when if there are windows at front and back they can fire 90 front and back. But one is allowed a free turn, does one rotate the unit or individual men. Or were our opponents correct and the 180 is irrelevant?

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AFAIK You rotate individuals

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It is relevant.
A unit turns 180 to fire at a unit to its rear. Fine.
It doesn’t then get to turn back to its original facing, if that were the case it would simply be worded as infantry have a 360 arc of fire. They don’t, they have a 180 but are allowed to turn.

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The main time the 180 arc becomes relevant is when you're closing into close combat. Charging LMGs from within their arc means you get shot to bits as you close in. It's always best to try and hit them from outside that arc.

But yes, when they fire infantry are normally able to turn to face any direction, so in most cases act as if they have a 360 arc.

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You could deploy the unit so that some of the men cover the windows to the front while others cover the rear windows, adjusting the dice you roll accordingly. If all the team are covering the front windows then you would have to move some or all of them to turn and fire from the rear windows, firing at half effect since they moved.

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It also matters whether or not you're observing the "2-inch gap" rule for firing. You are allowed to turn up to 180-degrees prior to firing, but this is on an individual model basis, and doing so might make it such that not all of the models in a unit can fire.

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I didnt think the 2" gap applies within a unit, only to other units?

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Truscott Trotter wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:27 pm
I didnt think the 2" gap applies within a unit, only to other units?
I thought it applied to each figure and any friendly figures, so would apply within a unit too. Have a look at the illustration on p. 32 of the rules by way of example.
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FAQ p 15
Q: The 2" rule for firing past other troops - how strictly should it be applied? Does it only affect
troops wholly behind others? What about arrowhead formations?
A: Arrowhead formations are not affected in any way. On reflection that rule over-complicates
things. What it is really trying to say is that men cannot fire through other men. So if you have a
squad of eight men clumped together, not all of them will be able to fire, just the ones with a clear
line of sight to the target.
However, if you have another Team trying to fire past the first squad, then you should allow a 2” gap
as they are avoiding friendly fire.

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So the right way to read it is that figures within the same unit should be able to shoot provided the figure has a clear line of sight even if the gap is smaller than 2".
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