37mm Pak 36 Values

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37mm Pak 36 Values

Post by Neal Smith » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:52 pm

I pulled this out of the other discussion. This is a "voting" thread. I just want to see if we really have a consensus for this question.

The proposal is: AP Value change to pre-1941 4, 5, 6 (Jan 1943+). This would also change the Support list values to 2/3/3.

Personal point: Not sure why Stielgranate is proposed to be 6.


Discuss!!!!

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Re: 37mm Pak 36 Values

Post by Captain W Martin » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:39 pm

Sorry its not wholly clear to me what the proposal is.

It's fine by me for the AP value to reduce to AP 4 which seems to be in line with the findings, BUT the support value would need to drop from 4 to 3 as otherwise it would be a pointless pick compared the the le.IG18

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Re: 37mm Pak 36 Values

Post by Truscott Trotter » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:19 pm

I wpuld do more reasearch chaps if you start changing AP on dates for one hou need to do for all.Then maybe hanve all the supporf values ev ig 18 wifh HEAT round has far more pen tban a pak 36
Personally i qould adjust the 25mm up and leave the rest for V2 :roll:

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Re: 37mm Pak 36 Values

Post by Captain W Martin » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:29 pm

Agreed.....

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Re: 37mm Pak 36 Values

Post by Neal Smith » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:28 am

Already adjusted the 25mm, so are we done here?


BTW, the support list value is 4 only for 1943+. It's the correct value based on the CoCulator...

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Re: 37mm Pak 36 Values

Post by Captain W Martin » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:55 am

Its 4 for 1940 as well, but if the AP value is dropped at 4 support point the leIG would have the same ap and much higher HE, so it needs to go down to 3 points if that were the case I would think.

Generally I'm of the opinion that is it really worth the bother?

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Re: 37mm Pak 36 Values

Post by Truscott Trotter » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:18 am

If you do go ahead and adjust every ATG for its improved ammo over the 5 year period then all the pdf army lists will need to be reveiwed as well. :roll:

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Re: 37mm Pak 36 Values

Post by Captain W Martin » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:09 am

I just couldn't be arsed personally tbh....

I can see why Ragnar was keen to get the 1 Pounder adjusted due to the paucity and support price of AT for the early Brits and the amount of AFV they will likely be facing.

I think why bother generally unless there is a urgent correction needed thats having a big impact.

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Re: 37mm Pak 36 Values

Post by Truscott Trotter » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:18 am

When FoW did this they added the new values only to the lists as they were published, but then they did not have 1 central arsenal they had 3 divised into EW MW and LW.

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Re: 37mm Pak 36 Values

Post by Peter » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:41 am

It's a big deal if you do early war. Up or down one die makes a big difference when armour values are 3 or 4. I suspect the IG may not have had such effective AT early in the war (though I'm no expert).
While I agree there might be too much detail for a single spreadsheet, I think people should be prepared to use specific values in Campaign booklets or locally if concentrating on a specific period/campaign.

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