Out of my depth

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Jfuller39
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Re: Out of my depth

Post by Jfuller39 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:25 pm

mellett68 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:13 am

95th rifles are, naturally, going to be gathered at some point but I've been finding sourcing a good box of them a bit tricky if I want a few groups.

Warlord Games just released a plastic 95th box. I want to say it’s 10men so maybe two boxes (3 groups of 6 +2 for maybe officers). They’ve also got a metal box as well, both in 28mm. Just realized you never mentioned scale. So if you’re going 28mm, warlord’s got a couple reasonably priced options. I know there are probably better sculpts from Perry or others, but if you’re looking for straight forward, I’ve liked Warlord’s plastics (AWI range).

mellett68
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Re: Out of my depth

Post by mellett68 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:17 pm

Contrarius wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:02 pm
Do you know the following site?

http://centjours.mont-saint-jean.com/un ... 8&nation=1
Exactly the sort of thing I've been looking for with no success! Thank you very much!
sjwalker51 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:08 pm
Based on the Cornwall reference, there’s always Bob and the Clotted Lard crew but I appreciate that could be a long way from wherever in Cornwall Mellett is based!
I've gone mad and signed myself up for clotted lard II. Hopefully by then I'll have some idea what I'm doing.
Jfuller39 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:25 pm

Warlord Games just released a plastic 95th box. I want to say it’s 10men so maybe two boxes (3 groups of 6 +2 for maybe officers). They’ve also got a metal box as well, both in 28mm. Just realized you never mentioned scale. So if you’re going 28mm, warlord’s got a couple reasonably priced options. I know there are probably better sculpts from Perry or others, but if you’re looking for straight forward, I’ve liked Warlord’s plastics (AWI range).
That's good to know. Scale wise I'm still not 100% but 28 is old familiar to me.
Archdukek wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:55 pm
While everyone is tempted to field the 95th Rifles, I prefer the 5/60th myself. In game terms, however, I would rather field Light Infantry Skirmishers with muskets since I find them more useful and better value points wise.

John
Daft question but how do I read 5/60th? I've seen that style name here and there while I've been researching but don't know what it means.

Also a more general question: are the wings something that kits provide or is it something I'd be trying to find the right models for?

Much appreciated everybody

bob696
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Re: Out of my depth

Post by bob696 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:55 am

Daft question but how do I read 5/60th? I've seen that style name here and there while I've been researching but don't know what it means.
5/60th = 5th battalion of the 60th foot regiment

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Re: Out of my depth

Post by Archdukek » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:34 am

As bob696 says, 5/60th is the 5th Battalion of the 60th Foot also known as the Royal Americans as the regiment was originally raised during the French & Indian Wars to defend the North American colonies. It included foreign recruits and officers. By the time of the Napoleonic Wars the first 4 battalions were regular musket armed line infantry, but the 5th battalion was entirely armed with the Baker Rifle. As such during the Peninsula War a company or companies of the battalion were often attached to brigades within the British Army to augment the brigade skirmish screen or for specialist skirmisher tasks. Very effective they were too.

As for wings on models, I can't say for certain what you will find amongst the plastic figure kits whether they are separate or moulded on. However, you do need to check if the models are suitable for flank companies (Lights and Grenadiers) or centre companies (everybody else. The presence of the wings and colour of the plumes on their shakos is what tells them apart.

John

mellett68
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Re: Out of my depth

Post by mellett68 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:47 am

bob696 wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:55 am
Daft question but how do I read 5/60th? I've seen that style name here and there while I've been researching but don't know what it means.
5/60th = 5th battalion of the 60th foot regiment
Makes perfect sense, that's why I didn't think of it!
Archdukek wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:34 am
As bob696 says, 5/60th is the 5th Battalion of the 60th Foot also known as the Royal Americans as the regiment was originally raised during the French & Indian Wars to defend the North American colonies. It included foreign recruits and officers. By the time of the Napoleonic Wars the first 4 battalions were regular musket armed line infantry, but the 5th battalion was entirely armed with the Baker Rifle. As such during the Peninsula War a company or companies of the battalion were often attached to brigades within the British Army to augment the brigade skirmish screen or for specialist skirmisher tasks. Very effective they were too.

As for wings on models, I can't say for certain what you will find amongst the plastic figure kits whether they are separate or moulded on. However, you do need to check if the models are suitable for flank companies (Lights and Grenadiers) or centre companies (everybody else. The presence of the wings and colour of the plumes on their shakos is what tells them apart.

John
I'll have to do my research when it comes to the kits then, I don't mind metal minis at all so sometimes that's the way to go as they're sculpted to be something specific.

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Re: Out of my depth

Post by Peter » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:58 pm

Of course the 17/21st Lancers are a different story. 2 regiments amalgamated. Don't ask for consistency in the British army.

Peter

Munin
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Re: Out of my depth

Post by Munin » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:36 pm

Or any army, for that matter...

mellett68
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Re: Out of my depth

Post by mellett68 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:17 am

Thanks for all your advice everybody. I've taken the plunge on some Perry british so expect a lot of panicking when that turns up.

Cheers,
Pete

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Re: Out of my depth

Post by BaronVonWreckedoften » Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:52 pm

Peter wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:58 pm
Of course the 17/21st Lancers are a different story. 2 regiments amalgamated. Don't ask for consistency in the British army.
I always liked the 16th/5th Lancers, so listed because the 5th had been disbanded for indiscipline in 1798, and then re-raised later and so was considered junior to the 16th, which had a continuous history. One of the regiment's nicknames was "the improper fractions".

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