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### Duxulator

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:38 pm**

by **Garth**

In game such as COC we have the CoCulator where we can basically build our own forces. The samething exists to an extent in Sharpes Practice, but what about DUX where the army lists are pretty much set. I very much want to build my own army strengths not only for Saxon/Romano Brits/Picts etc but also for Vikings, Normans and other dark age armies.

Someone did mention about using the lists from Lion Rampant and Dux Bellorum. I'm wondering if others have used these books or have similar ideas, or there is a resource I haven't come across yet.

### Re: Duxulator

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:53 pm**

by **Groupe_Franc**

A couple of months ago I decided to leap into Dux except that I wanted to game the Carolingians vs. the Vikings. A request to this forum yielded the URL for the Facebook page devoted to Dux

https://www.facebook.com/groups/duxbritanniarum/files/ It is complete including cards. ALso the Christmas 2012 had an article about the Vikings' incursions in England. It's a shame you don't live in Seattle.

### Re: Duxulator

Posted: **Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:17 pm**

by **GunnarL**

I did up a very basic points cost for the basic troop types. I will note, this is not based on play-testing yet, but just a rough estimate.

Elite: 1 pt

Warrior: 1/2 pts

Levy: 1/3 pts

Skirm/Missile: 1/4 pts

Ability to form shieldwall: 1/3-1/2 pts

Like I said, rough estimates, but if you try it out it, let me know if it's too far off.

### Re: Duxulator

Posted: **Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:47 am**

by **Garth**

I was thinking of something along the same lines except

Elites 4 points

Warriors 3 points

Levy 2 points

Skirmishers 1 point

one point for abilities i.e. shield wall or 1 point if mounted so an elite unit mounted becomes 5 points or 2 points if Shock Cavalry

Then 3 points for a status three noble and 2 points for a status 2 noble. Champions are free but you can only ever have one.

This means that from the core rule book a Romano British Force works out like this...

Two groups of warriors 6 points

one Elite Comanipulars 4 points

Three groups of levy 6 points

One group of slingers 1 point

On status 3 noble

Two status 2 nobles

Special Rules: Shield Wall 1 point.

Total 25 points.

The Saxon Force works out to be...

Three groups of Geoguth Warriors 9 points

Two groups of Gedridht 8 points

Missile Troops 1 point

One status 3 Noble

Two status 2 nobles

Total 25 points.

This means that (If my maths is correct) that both armies are equal

I haven't worked out the armies from the other book yet but 25 points seems a nice number for a starter army.

### Re: Duxulator

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:17 am**

by **OzRecon63**

Greetings All, long time lurker, only just joined the forums. I have really fell in love with the TFL systems, especially DB, & CoC.

@Garth, if I have used your formula correctly, I think I have correctly calculated the forces from the Raiders Book. I would like any correct any errors I may have made to be listed please.

The Picts (I think I may have missed something here ??)

Four groups of raiders (warriors) 12 points

One group of raider cavalry 4 points

Missile Troops 1 point

One group of skirmisher/slingers 1 point

One status 3 noble

One status 2 noble

Total 23 points.

The Irish & The Scotti

Three groups of raiders (warriors) 9 points

Missile Troops 1 point

Two group of skirmisher/slingers 1 point

One group of Skirmish cavalry 2 points

One group of Noble cavalry 5 points

One status 3 noble

One status 2 noble

One status 1 noble

Total 25 points

### Re: Duxulator

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:36 am**

by **OzRecon63**

I have also attempted to do a force calculation for the forces in the Lard Xmas Special 2012. But I think I may have greatly stuffed it royally

. Any corrections would be greatly appreciated.

In may calculations I have only included 1 noble, so that may account for some of the missing points.

The Vikings

Two groups of warriors 6 points

? upgrade One group of warriors to berserkers 1 point

Four groups of levy 8 points

? may split into groups of 4 levy & 2 missiles

Two group of skirmisher/slingers 1 point

peasant rabble/ inferior levy ?? points

One status 3 noble

Total ?21 points

The Anglo-Saxons

One group of elite 4 points *

Two groups of warriors 6 points *

Three groups of great fyrd/levy 6 points #

One groups of missiles 1 point

peasant rabble/ inferior levy ?? points

One status 3 noble

Shield wall ability 1 point *

improvised weapons -1 point #

Total ?20 points

The Welsh

One group of elite 4 points *

Two groups of warriors 6 points *

Three groups of levy 6 points

One groups of missiles/skirmishers 1 point

One group of light cavalry 4 points

One status 3 noble

*may be exchanged to One group of Four elite shock cavalry

Total ? 24 points

### Re: Duxulator

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:53 pm**

by **Emilio**

### Re: Duxulator

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:45 pm**

by **OzRecon63**

@Emilio, nice find, and an interesting read. That may be a simpler way of calculating points for a force.