In game such as COC we have the CoCulator where we can basically build our own forces. The samething exists to an extent in Sharpes Practice, but what about DUX where the army lists are pretty much set. I very much want to build my own army strengths not only for Saxon/Romano Brits/Picts etc but also for Vikings, Normans and other dark age armies.
Someone did mention about using the lists from Lion Rampant and Dux Bellorum. I'm wondering if others have used these books or have similar ideas, or there is a resource I haven't come across yet.
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A couple of months ago I decided to leap into Dux except that I wanted to game the Carolingians vs. the Vikings. A request to this forum yielded the URL for the Facebook page devoted to Dux https://www.facebook.com/groups/duxbritanniarum/files/ It is complete including cards. ALso the Christmas 2012 had an article about the Vikings' incursions in England. It's a shame you don't live in Seattle.
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I did up a very basic points cost for the basic troop types. I will note, this is not based on playtesting yet, but just a rough estimate.
Elite: 1 pt
Warrior: 1/2 pts
Levy: 1/3 pts
Skirm/Missile: 1/4 pts
Ability to form shieldwall: 1/31/2 pts
Like I said, rough estimates, but if you try it out it, let me know if it's too far off.
Elite: 1 pt
Warrior: 1/2 pts
Levy: 1/3 pts
Skirm/Missile: 1/4 pts
Ability to form shieldwall: 1/31/2 pts
Like I said, rough estimates, but if you try it out it, let me know if it's too far off.
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I was thinking of something along the same lines except
Elites 4 points
Warriors 3 points
Levy 2 points
Skirmishers 1 point
one point for abilities i.e. shield wall or 1 point if mounted so an elite unit mounted becomes 5 points or 2 points if Shock Cavalry
Then 3 points for a status three noble and 2 points for a status 2 noble. Champions are free but you can only ever have one.
This means that from the core rule book a Romano British Force works out like this...
Two groups of warriors 6 points
one Elite Comanipulars 4 points
Three groups of levy 6 points
One group of slingers 1 point
On status 3 noble
Two status 2 nobles
Special Rules: Shield Wall 1 point.
Total 25 points.
The Saxon Force works out to be...
Three groups of Geoguth Warriors 9 points
Two groups of Gedridht 8 points
Missile Troops 1 point
One status 3 Noble
Two status 2 nobles
Total 25 points.
This means that (If my maths is correct) that both armies are equal
I haven't worked out the armies from the other book yet but 25 points seems a nice number for a starter army.
Elites 4 points
Warriors 3 points
Levy 2 points
Skirmishers 1 point
one point for abilities i.e. shield wall or 1 point if mounted so an elite unit mounted becomes 5 points or 2 points if Shock Cavalry
Then 3 points for a status three noble and 2 points for a status 2 noble. Champions are free but you can only ever have one.
This means that from the core rule book a Romano British Force works out like this...
Two groups of warriors 6 points
one Elite Comanipulars 4 points
Three groups of levy 6 points
One group of slingers 1 point
On status 3 noble
Two status 2 nobles
Special Rules: Shield Wall 1 point.
Total 25 points.
The Saxon Force works out to be...
Three groups of Geoguth Warriors 9 points
Two groups of Gedridht 8 points
Missile Troops 1 point
One status 3 Noble
Two status 2 nobles
Total 25 points.
This means that (If my maths is correct) that both armies are equal
I haven't worked out the armies from the other book yet but 25 points seems a nice number for a starter army.
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Greetings All, long time lurker, only just joined the forums. I have really fell in love with the TFL systems, especially DB, & CoC.
@Garth, if I have used your formula correctly, I think I have correctly calculated the forces from the Raiders Book. I would like any correct any errors I may have made to be listed please.
The Picts (I think I may have missed something here ??)
Four groups of raiders (warriors) 12 points
One group of raider cavalry 4 points
Missile Troops 1 point
One group of skirmisher/slingers 1 point
One status 3 noble
One status 2 noble
Total 23 points.
The Irish & The Scotti
Three groups of raiders (warriors) 9 points
Missile Troops 1 point
Two group of skirmisher/slingers 1 point
One group of Skirmish cavalry 2 points
One group of Noble cavalry 5 points
One status 3 noble
One status 2 noble
One status 1 noble
Total 25 points
@Garth, if I have used your formula correctly, I think I have correctly calculated the forces from the Raiders Book. I would like any correct any errors I may have made to be listed please.
The Picts (I think I may have missed something here ??)
Four groups of raiders (warriors) 12 points
One group of raider cavalry 4 points
Missile Troops 1 point
One group of skirmisher/slingers 1 point
One status 3 noble
One status 2 noble
Total 23 points.
The Irish & The Scotti
Three groups of raiders (warriors) 9 points
Missile Troops 1 point
Two group of skirmisher/slingers 1 point
One group of Skirmish cavalry 2 points
One group of Noble cavalry 5 points
One status 3 noble
One status 2 noble
One status 1 noble
Total 25 points
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I have also attempted to do a force calculation for the forces in the Lard Xmas Special 2012. But I think I may have greatly stuffed it royally . Any corrections would be greatly appreciated.
In may calculations I have only included 1 noble, so that may account for some of the missing points.
The Vikings
Two groups of warriors 6 points
? upgrade One group of warriors to berserkers 1 point
Four groups of levy 8 points
? may split into groups of 4 levy & 2 missiles
Two group of skirmisher/slingers 1 point
peasant rabble/ inferior levy ?? points
One status 3 noble
Total ?21 points
The AngloSaxons
One group of elite 4 points *
Two groups of warriors 6 points *
Three groups of great fyrd/levy 6 points #
One groups of missiles 1 point
peasant rabble/ inferior levy ?? points
One status 3 noble
Shield wall ability 1 point *
improvised weapons 1 point #
Total ?20 points
The Welsh
One group of elite 4 points *
Two groups of warriors 6 points *
Three groups of levy 6 points
One groups of missiles/skirmishers 1 point
One group of light cavalry 4 points
One status 3 noble
*may be exchanged to One group of Four elite shock cavalry
Total ? 24 points
In may calculations I have only included 1 noble, so that may account for some of the missing points.
The Vikings
Two groups of warriors 6 points
? upgrade One group of warriors to berserkers 1 point
Four groups of levy 8 points
? may split into groups of 4 levy & 2 missiles
Two group of skirmisher/slingers 1 point
peasant rabble/ inferior levy ?? points
One status 3 noble
Total ?21 points
The AngloSaxons
One group of elite 4 points *
Two groups of warriors 6 points *
Three groups of great fyrd/levy 6 points #
One groups of missiles 1 point
peasant rabble/ inferior levy ?? points
One status 3 noble
Shield wall ability 1 point *
improvised weapons 1 point #
Total ?20 points
The Welsh
One group of elite 4 points *
Two groups of warriors 6 points *
Three groups of levy 6 points
One groups of missiles/skirmishers 1 point
One group of light cavalry 4 points
One status 3 noble
*may be exchanged to One group of Four elite shock cavalry
Total ? 24 points
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@Emilio, nice find, and an interesting read. That may be a simpler way of calculating points for a force.