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1979 - 1989 Soviet Afghan war

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:08 am
by roughneck2
Has anyone tried converting CDS to game the Soviet-Afghan war?
I would imagine it would require a fair bit of tweaking to the original CDS rules but thought I'd ask if anyone has considered doing it?

Re: 1979 - 1989 Soviet Afghan war

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:00 am
by Richard
I do think it would require a pretty massive re-tweak as CDS are very much Viet Nam specific in the way they treat objectives. Not impossible to overcome, but I'd be inclined to start from the beginning and create something different.

What size game are you looking at? A modern version of CoC may be more appropriate.

Rich

Re: 1979 - 1989 Soviet Afghan war

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:34 am
by roughneck2
Hi Richard
Thanks for the response.My initial thoughts were that given the conflict was asymmetrical and dealt with a guerilla insurgency that CDS seemed the logical starting point. However on further reading I can certainly see that something along the lines of a modern CoC (or TW&T) might be the better option as you've suggested. Perhaps 'The Rock the Casbah' supplement might also have some useful ideas ?

From what I've read thus far the Afghan resistance conducted a lot of small scale operations, particularly hit & runs ops against convoys, to try and negate the Soviet technological advantages.This tends to suggest that a platoon level game might be the way to go, rather than a company level game.

The variable quality of the Soviet forces (particularly later in the war when they had conscripts with only 3 weeks basic training going into the conflict) would make for an interesting game. Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions would be most welcome.

regards
Roger

Re: 1979 - 1989 Soviet Afghan war: platoon, company, battali

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:49 am
by djbamforduk
I'm very pleased to have found these old posts about gaming the Soviet-Afghan war using TFL rules.

A company level 1988 Afghanistan scenario article that I wrote and submitted back in 2013 should finally be appearing in 'Wargames, Soldiers & Strategy' before the end of this calendar year, but don't hold your breath... Hopefully they will have the space to include my full Troop Organisation & Equipment tables, unlike with my 1944 Yugoslavia article.

The Afghan mujahedeen fought actions at what we would call company, battalion and brigade level as well as platoon level. So there is a lot of scope for different level actions.

There was also a lot of variety: It wasn't all just ambushes. For example, there was one incident where a Russian general was kidnapped in a planned operation, which actually took place in a city suburb.

I have already offered to write a TFL supplement of a dozen historical platoon-level scenarios for use with either Chain of Command or the forthcoming 'Fighting Season'.

I could just as easily compile a similar collection of company-level scenarios: The US military did a lot of research on the Soviet-Afghan war that is now in the public domain and I managed to get online access to some relevant specialist military history journals.

So, there is no shortage of scenario material.

Best wishes,

Daniel.